Revisions on the Soil Solution Manual - ICP Forests2024-03-29T08:25:11Zhttp://icp-forests.net/forum/topics/revisions-on-the-soil-solution-manual?groupUrl=working-group-on-soil-solution&commentId=6400053%3AComment%3A33331&groupId=6400053%3AGroup%3A3419&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDear Arne, Nicholas and Elisa…tag:icp-forests.net,2015-05-15:6400053:Comment:333312015-05-15T14:19:59.533ZTiina Maileena Nieminenhttp://icp-forests.net/profile/TiinaMaileenaNieminen
<p>Dear Arne, Nicholas and Elisabeth,</p>
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<p>Thank you very much for your valuable comments. I took your corrections into account and modified slightly the version to be presented next week at Task Force by Nathalie Cools.</p>
<p>The data submisson format will be changed later, after the acceptance of the updat by Task Force.</p>
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<p>with my best wishes,</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Tiina</p>
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<p>Dear Arne, Nicholas and Elisabeth,</p>
<p></p>
<p>Thank you very much for your valuable comments. I took your corrections into account and modified slightly the version to be presented next week at Task Force by Nathalie Cools.</p>
<p>The data submisson format will be changed later, after the acceptance of the updat by Task Force.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>with my best wishes,</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Tiina</p>
<p> </p> Dear Tiina,
Thanks for the up…tag:icp-forests.net,2015-05-12:6400053:Comment:335222015-05-12T14:11:34.109ZElisabeth Graf Pannatierhttp://icp-forests.net/profile/ElisabethGrafPannatier
<p>Dear Tiina,</p>
<p>Thanks for the update. I have three comments:</p>
<p>1) Section 4.1 "However, in cases where tension lysimeter techniques cannot be used on certain plots or depths due to, for example, <strong>extremely arid conditions</strong>: remove "extremely" because semi-destructive methods would not be useful in such conditions.</p>
<p>2) Section 4.4.1 "In case of pooling, the soil solution volume to be reported is the sum of individual volumes of the pooled samples, i.e.…</p>
<p>Dear Tiina,</p>
<p>Thanks for the update. I have three comments:</p>
<p>1) Section 4.1 "However, in cases where tension lysimeter techniques cannot be used on certain plots or depths due to, for example, <strong>extremely arid conditions</strong>: remove "extremely" because semi-destructive methods would not be useful in such conditions.</p>
<p>2) Section 4.4.1 "In case of pooling, the soil solution volume to be reported is the sum of individual volumes of the pooled samples, i.e. <strong>total volume of the sampler group</strong>". This should be corrected also in the SSM form for data submission (column 38-42).</p>
<p>3) Table 2 does not illustrate the problem of changing the Sampler_ID when you start to pool the samples. I also find strange that samples at 0.05 cm and 80 cm are pooled and not at 20 cm in this example. I would assume that if you pool the samples, you pool them at all depths. In this table, I would show 2 single lysimeters for two depths (e.g. -0.05 and -0.50) in 2003 and the pooling of those two lysimeters for both depths in 2004. This would make 6 lines in the table. <strong>Please note that the depth should be negative</strong></p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Elisabeth</p>
<p></p>
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</table> Dear Tiina, dear all,
I've ad…tag:icp-forests.net,2015-05-08:6400053:Comment:335162015-05-08T13:59:14.905ZNicholas John Clarkehttp://icp-forests.net/profile/NicholasJohnClarke
<p>Dear Tiina, dear all,</p>
<p>I've added a few small comments.</p>
<p>Have a nice weekend!</p>
<p>Nicholas</p>
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<p>Dear Tiina, dear all,</p>
<p>I've added a few small comments.</p>
<p>Have a nice weekend!</p>
<p>Nicholas</p>
<p></p> Dear Tiina,
with regard to th…tag:icp-forests.net,2015-05-08:6400053:Comment:334122015-05-08T06:35:42.252ZArne Verstraetenhttp://icp-forests.net/profile/ArneVerstraeten
<p>Dear Tiina,</p>
<p>with regard to the section on pooling of samples, i think it would be good to mention that new lysimeters should always be followed up separately during a ’test period’ after installation, because there might be an installation effect (often indicated by an elevated pH, NO3, NH4, TN and EC). Only when a more or less stable chemical composition is reached, the sample of the new lysimeter should be pooled with the other samplers. I sent you a number of small corrections as…</p>
<p>Dear Tiina,</p>
<p>with regard to the section on pooling of samples, i think it would be good to mention that new lysimeters should always be followed up separately during a ’test period’ after installation, because there might be an installation effect (often indicated by an elevated pH, NO3, NH4, TN and EC). Only when a more or less stable chemical composition is reached, the sample of the new lysimeter should be pooled with the other samplers. I sent you a number of small corrections as track changes by email.</p>
<p>best regards,</p>
<p>Arne</p>